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Foreningen B\u00e6redygtigt Hornb\u00e6k sammen med en r\u00e6kke ejendomsejere\/beboere i naboejendommene.<\/p><ol><li><strong> Ber\u00f8rte myndigheder <\/strong><\/li><\/ol><p>Det fastholdes, at Milj\u00f8styrelsen skulle have v\u00e6ret h\u00f8rt som ber\u00f8rt myndighed.<\/p><p>Til st\u00f8tte herfor bem\u00e6rkes, at n\u00e6rv\u00e6rende sag netop ang\u00e5r sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l om konkrete forhold, som er omfattet af Milj\u00f8ministeriets saglige kompetence, herunder ogs\u00e5 med ret til at mods\u00e6tte sig planer og projekter. Det udg\u00f8r f.eks. et konkret forhold, hvorvidt en kommune som Planmyndighed kan undlade at udf\u00f8re habitatvurderinger med henvisning til en senere myndigheds sagsbehandling. Den myndighed kunne i dette scenarie f.eks. v\u00e6re Milj\u00f8styrelsen, der herved reelt p\u00e5l\u00e6gges at udf\u00f8re kommunens arbejde.<\/p><p>Det fastholdes tillige, at Nationalpark Kongernes Nordsj\u00e6lland skulle have v\u00e6ret h\u00f8rt, jf. planlovens \u00a7\u00a7 25, stk. 1 og 29 c. Der er ikke indholdsm\u00e6ssigt forskel p\u00e5 om Nationalparken h\u00f8res eller underrettes med indsigelsesret. Indsigelsesretten i planlovens \u00a7 29 c har netop til form\u00e5l, at sidestille nationalparker som ber\u00f8rt myndighed, idet underretning foruds\u00e6ttes at ske <em>inden <\/em>beslutninger tr\u00e6ffes.<\/p><ol start=\"2\"><li><strong> Nye relevante oplysninger (NOVA) <\/strong><\/li><\/ol><p>Det g\u00f8res g\u00e6ldende, at mellemkommende fakta skal inddrages i vurderingen, jf. Amager F\u00e6lled-sagen (BS-4114\/2022-KBH den 1. februar 2022 og sag BS-22319\/2022-KBH), i henhold til deldom afsagt den 7. december 2023.<\/p><p>Helsing\u00f8r Kommune anf\u00f8rer i sin skrivelse p\u00e5 side 11, at den omtalte videnskabelige rapport, dateret 7. marts 2024, ikke har v\u00e6ret tilg\u00e6ngelig ved udarbejdelsen af milj\u00f8rapporten, men uagtet dette skal den indg\u00e5 i sagsbehandlingen af klagen.<\/p><p>Klager tilvejebringer yderligere bilag til sagen vedr\u00f8rende tilstedev\u00e6relsen af marsvin i planomr\u00e5det. Tro- og loveerkl\u00e6ring om artens tilstedev\u00e6relse underskrevet af Jesper Madsen, dr.scient., professor i dyr og fugles \u00f8kologi og Cornelia Jaspers, Ph.D., seniorforsker i marin \u00f8kologi, vedl\u00e6gges som <strong>Bilag 22<\/strong>. Billeder af marsvin i omr\u00e5det i 2016 vedl\u00e6gges som <strong>Bilag 23<\/strong>.<\/p><ol start=\"3\"><li><strong> Habitatvurderinger skal foretages inden planvedtagelsen <\/strong><\/li><\/ol><p>Helsing\u00f8r Kommune anf\u00f8rer i sin skrivelse, at \u201dde natur- og milj\u00f8m\u00e6ssige forhold, der skal belyses\u201d m\u00e5 afklares i forbindelse med Kystdirektoratets behandling af det konkrete projekt. Det er s\u00e5ledes Helsing\u00f8r Kommunes opfattelse, at kommunen ikke beh\u00f8ver at belyse de n\u00f8dvendige natur- og milj\u00f8m\u00e6ssige forhold.<\/p><p>Det g\u00f8res g\u00e6ldende, at alle habitatvurderingerne af planerne skal foretages af kommunen inden vedtagelse af planerne sker, jf. planhabitatbekendtg\u00f8relsens \u00a7\u00a7 3 og 7. Vurderingerne kan ikke udskydes til senere.<\/p><p><strong>3.1 Plangrundlaget er tilstr\u00e6kkeligt konkret <\/strong><\/p><p>Til st\u00f8tte herfor henvises til, at en undladelse af habitatvurdering med henvisning til den senere sagsbehandling er i strid med habitatbeskyttelsen og desuden medf\u00f8rer, at kommunen p\u00e5l\u00e6gger bygherre at udf\u00f8re og bekoste vurderingen \u2013 eller som anf\u00f8rt i afsnit 1, videregive forpligtelsen til andre myndigheder, f.eks. Milj\u00f8styrelsen.<\/p><p>Planernes p\u00e5virkning af det n\u00e6rliggende Natura 2000-omr\u00e5de, Gilleleje Flak og Tragten, hvor marsvin er p\u00e5 udpegningsgrundlaget, samt den direkte p\u00e5virkning af marsvin, g\u00f8r, at vurderingerne skal foretages p\u00e5 det nuv\u00e6rende planstadie. Planerne er konkrete nok til at dette kan ske.<\/p><p>Til st\u00f8tte herfor henvises til Planklagen\u00e6vnets afg\u00f8relse af 22. februar 2023 (sagsnr. 22\/09335 og 22\/09336). Afg\u00f8relsen omhandlede bl.a. et kommuneplantill\u00e6g samt vindm\u00f8lle- og solenergiplan med dertilh\u00f8rende milj\u00f8rapport, som muliggjorde et vindm\u00f8lleomr\u00e5de. Klagen\u00e6vnet fandt i denne sag, at kommunen blot havde beskrevet, hvilke forhold der skulle behandles i den senere detailplanl\u00e6gning og projektrealisering. Klagen\u00e6vnet fandt p\u00e5 baggrund heraf, at milj\u00f8rapporten ikke var tilstr\u00e6kkelig. I denne vurdering lagde klagen\u00e6vnet v\u00e6gt p\u00e5, at faktorer som planens geografiske omr\u00e5de, et maksimalt antal vindm\u00f8ller og deres totalh\u00f8jde var kendt i planens indhold, hvorfor vurderingen af p\u00e5virkningen p\u00e5 Natura 2000-omr\u00e5det og bilag IV-arter skulle foretages f\u00f8r planerne kunne vedtages.<\/p><p>I n\u00e6rv\u00e6rende sag er der tale om et kommuneplantill\u00e6g og en projektlokalplan, der har et meget konkret indhold. Lokalplanen indeholder f.eks. seks afgr\u00e6nsede geografiske omr\u00e5der (side 12) og angivelse af specifikke anl\u00e6g, der skal realiseres (side 12 &#8211; 20). Der er alts\u00e5 tale planl\u00e6gning af v\u00e6sentlig mere konkret karakter end i PKN-sag 22\/09335 og 22\/09336, hvor n\u00e6vnet ogs\u00e5 fandt, at habitatvurderingerne skulle foretages.<\/p><p><strong>3.2 Habitatvurdering kan ikke udskydes til senere processkridt <\/strong><\/p><p>Det g\u00f8res g\u00e6ldende, at det forhold, at projektrealisering kr\u00e6ver en senere godkendelse\/tilladelse ikke medf\u00f8rer, at habitatvurderinger af planerne kan undlades.<\/p><p>Planklagen\u00e6vnet har tidligere i sine afg\u00f8relser af 19. november 2021 (j.nr. 20\/07503 og 20\/09222) og 17. marts 2022 (j.nr. 20\/00979) afvist, at vurderinger ved bilag IV-arter med henvisning til senere sagsbehandling kan udskydes til senere.<\/p><p>Sagerne omhandlede planer, der efter sit indhold kr\u00e6vede f\u00e6ldning af tr\u00e6er og\/eller nedrivning af bygninger. I begge sager undlod kommunerne at foretage vurderinger af p\u00e5virkning p\u00e5 bilag IV-arten flagermus potentielle yngle- og\/eller rasteomr\u00e5der i tr\u00e6erne og bygningerne med henvisning til, at bygherre senere skulle s\u00f8ge de n\u00f8dvendige tilladelser. Planklagen\u00e6vnet fandt i begge sager, at milj\u00f8rapporten var utilstr\u00e6kkelig. Dertil bem\u00e6rker Planklagen\u00e6vnet, at kommunerne som minimum skulle have foretaget en \u201dindledende vurdering\u201d og s\u00e5fremt denne havde vist en potentiel p\u00e5virkning, skulle have foretaget konkrete unders\u00f8gelser.<\/p><p>Disse afg\u00f8relser har omst\u00e6ndigheder, som er sammenlignelige med n\u00e6rv\u00e6rende sag. Helsing\u00f8r Kommune har indledende konstateret, at der er risiko for, at planen p\u00e5virker marsvin, men ikke foretaget de konkrete unders\u00f8gelser, der belyser dette n\u00e6rmere. Dette er til trods for, at bilag IV-arten kan have yngle- og\/eller rasteomr\u00e5der inden for planomr\u00e5det. Hornb\u00e6k Kommune kan s\u00e5ledes ikke som det fremf\u00f8res i skrivelse af 07\/04-2025 til n\u00e6vnet overlade vurderinger til, at<\/p><p>\u201d[\u2026]Kystdirektoratet, som myndighed for s\u00f8territoriet, i sin sagsbehandling vil tage konkret stilling til s\u00e6rligt de natur- og milj\u00f8m\u00e6ssige forhold, der skal belyses af ans\u00f8ger i forbindelse med det ans\u00f8gte projekt for udvidelse af Hornb\u00e6k Havn\u201d, eller antage, at<\/p><p>\u201d[\u2026]en konkret og fuldt udfoldet sagsbehandling af de natur- og milj\u00f8m\u00e6ssige forhold skal endeligt sagsbehandles ved Kystdirektoratets behandling af det konkrete ans\u00f8gte projekt om udvidelse af Hornb\u00e6k Havn\u201d<\/p><p>Vurderingerne skal foretages af Helsing\u00f8r Kommune, inden planerne kan vedtages. 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